OYM Hally Brooke | Gut And Mental Health

 

Functional medicine recognizes the intricate connection between the gut and the brain, known as the gut-brain axis. The gut-brain axis is a bidirectional communication system between the gastrointestinal tract (the gut) and the central nervous system (the brain). In this episode, Hally Brooke, the Founder & CEO of Live Nourished Coaching, explains the Gut-Brain Axis and the connection between the gut and mental health. She discusses how the 30 to 60-day elimination food plan provides value in healing faster. This approach aims to identify individual food sensitivities or intolerances contributing to gut and systemic inflammation. Hally also emphasizes the importance of following the diet from the Mitochondria Food Plan for brain health. Tune in to this conversation to understand more about the connection between our gut and mental health.

 

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Hally Brooke, Founder Of Live Nourished

Hally Brooke is the Founder and CEO of Live Nourished Coaching. She is a Certified Functional Medicine Nutrition Counselor and a Nationally Board-Certified Health and Wellness Coach. She’s also a Fox 21 fitness and nutrition expert and a fierce industry advocate. She has built a thriving nationwide functional medicine health coaching practice based on her own personal experience of overcoming serious gastrointestinal issues including IBS and SIBO. Her education and training all put her in a place where she has built a program that works with clients in all key areas of wellness, including movement, nutrition, mindset, resilience, relationships, and self-care.

Hally, welcome. Thank you so much for joining us.

Dr. Hayes, it’s wonderful to be here. Thank you so much for having me.

I’m looking forward to hearing about what you do and what drives your passion for it.

I’m a Functional Medicine Nutrition Counselor and Health Coach. I got into that. I was a middle school and high school Math Teacher for nine years, which is crazy. I came out of college thinking I was going to do pre-med. I ended up doing Teach for America for a few years, which turned into many years. In those many years, I ended up getting super sick. I dealt with IBS and all the things that come with that, including anxiety, depression, and a bunch of stuff that I’d never dealt with anywhere before in my life.

I thought I needed a career change. I thought teaching was too stressful. I switched from teaching to personal training as a complete hard left turned into something completely different. I’ve always been passionate about health and fitness and thought that was worth a try. That didn’t get me better. I was still sick. I stumbled into functional medicine looking for answers for myself, trying to figure out what was going on with my gut and going on with my body, and fell in love with functional medicine.

I’m a nerd, so I talked to my clients about what I’m learning and all of these things. It was my clients who went, “Hally, you need to go back to school.” I went back to school. I was like, “Cool. Thank you.” At the end of 2019 and the beginning of 2020, right during the pandemic, it was a great time to get into functional medicine. I got a degree in Health Coaching and Nutrition and pivoted my personal training practice to individual health coaching practice and nutrition counseling practice.

That exploded because everyone, especially during the pandemic, was looking for alternative health stuff. Eighty-eight percent of Americans deal with gut health that affects other parts of their body. My business exploded. We are now both an international company that works with people in their mental health. We’re also a health coaching agency. We plugged health coaches into medical practices to help doctors serve their patients with an even more hands-on touch.

That’s a fast outline. When you mention the gut and mental health, my hunch is most people reading this don’t see a connection.

A lot of people don’t see a connection. You’re right.

How do you start introducing people to that and talking about it in a way that can help them make sense of it?

A lot of people have heard of this gut-brain access, this thing that connects our guts to our brains. I teach people about gut-brain access in a couple of different ways. One of the things that we talk about a lot is how depression is brain inflammation. We now know that depression is typically brain inflammation. We say, “If depression is brain inflammation, then where does the inflammation come from?”

Inflammation comes from some chronic immune reaction to something. It’s either coming from infection, someone who’s dealing with Epstein Barr disease, COVID, or who has a poor immune system and is struggling in that way, or it’s coming from gut permeability. You say, “How does gut permeability link to inflammation which then links to anxiety and depression?”

The way that I explain it is your gut, which is when I use the word gut. I’m typically talking about your large intestine. Your whole gut is your esophagus, stomach, small intestine, and your large intestine. I usually am talking about your large intestine. That epithelial lining is one cell thick, which is wild when you think about that delicate skin under your eye.

It’s about 30 cells thick. One cell thick is pretty easy to get holes in that. We use our gut or our large intestine multiple times per day every single day. It doesn’t take a whole lot to get some holes in that. We call that intestinal permeability. Now we have bacteria particles, fecal matter particles, and poop particles leaking out into the rest of your body cavity, which then triggers your immune system to go, “This is not good.”

Your immune system goes and attacks all of those foreign invaders. When you are having an immune response, you feel all the things that you feel when you have the flu. You feel tired, achy, and exhausted, it’s hard to think and you don’t have energy, all of those things. When we think about tired, exhausted, and don’t have energy, those are also all of the things that we associate with depression. What we’ve learned is that depression specifically is typically a two-tier front.

There’s the psychological piece, which comes from trauma, past experiences, and the way that we’re interpreting our world. We need counseling and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and DBT for that. There’s the internal world, which is we need to get your inflammation under control so that your brain is not inflamed so that you can deal with whatever is going on in your life. We get that inflammation under control. We get your gut permeability solved so that you don’t have a leaky gut anymore. Those two together solve depression and anxiety most of the time. When we’re talking about the gut-brain axis, that’s how I show people how these two things are so tightly linked.

I would think some people understand. I’ve heard a lot about how certain basic foods aren’t foods like sugar and white flour. I know a lot of people think in terms where if they’ve heard anything about this leaky gut, they think simply in terms of, “I’ve been eating the wrong kinds of things and now I’ve got a leaky gut. Now I’m screwed. There’s nothing that can be done.” When you have somebody who has that approach, where do you begin with them to give them hope?

I talk about a broken arm. If you broke your arm, you would put it in a cast for six weeks. You wouldn’t use it and your body would heal it. Everybody who’s in that spot of, “My gut is leaky,” can understand that. If I break my arm, I put it in a cast and I don’t use it. It heals. I use that same thing. I say, “You have a broken gut.” Your body is designed to heal. It will heal itself if we give it the nutrients, the time, and the space to heal. That’s what your body is designed to do.

It’s so amazing, even as medical practitioners, you and I. We’re putting people in the best position to heal. No matter how amazing we are as medical practitioners, we are setting people up to be able to heal. It’s their body that’s doing the healing for them. I say, “If you have a broken arm, you put it in a cast for six weeks. It heals, we do some physical therapy, and we’re good to rock and roll.”

Your gut’s the same way. Except that I can’t put your gut in a cast for six weeks and not feed you because you die. How do we do this? We eliminate anything that’s causing that inflammation. We remove anything that could be making those holes worse. The second thing we do is use a couple of specifically targeted micronutrients, phytonutrients, and supplements to act like a Band-Aid over that gut lining.

We increase the mucosal lining and we create a barrier between your gut epithelial lining and what’s going on in your gut. It is like if you have a cut on your arm, you put a Band-Aid over it. The Band-Aid doesn’t make you heal. It lets you heal so you’re not ripping the scab off every time. We use things like L-glutamine, aloe vera, and stuff like that to do that.

We use specific probiotics. When I say probiotics, people typically think of bacteria, but we use some targeted yeasts and fungi that are not killed by antibiotics to help repopulate that lawn of bacteria in your gut. We feed that lawn with prebiotics which take anywhere from 30 to 120 days, depending on how broken someone’s gut is, then they’re fixed.

We have clients who come to us all the time who have done a food sensitivity test and the list of things that they can’t eat is three times longer than the list of the things that they can eat. They think that that’s forever. Those intolerances, they’re not allergies. Allergies are something very different, but those in intolerances are a sign that you have a leaky gut.

As soon as we get all of that food to stay in your gut, you no longer have those intolerances because your immune system isn’t attacking them. That’s a long answer to say if you have a broken gut, we treat it like we heal a broken arm. We put your body in the best position that we can and we let your body do what your body does best, which is heal.

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Gut And Mental Health: If we have a broken gut, treat it like we heal a broken arm. Put your body in the best position and let your body do what your body does best, which is to heal.

 

You said things like aloe vera and L-glutamine. You made the analogy that’s like the Band-Aid. They somehow create a protective barrier, then you feed it with prebiotics and eventually probiotics. During that period of time, what diet or restrictions is a person on? Are you simply adding some of those things to what they were already eating, or do you put them on a very restrictive diet?

That’s where we take off the nutritionist hat and put on the health coach hat. The ideal is that someone would do a 30 to 60-day elimination food plan, which is we cut out gluten, dairy, sugar, caffeine, corn, and soy. We cut any of those things that are higher probability foods of causing inflammation. The thing is, we’re humans and our human lives look different day-to-day.

If I say that to a mom of three whose husband is deployed and I say, “I need you to cut out everything that you normally eat,” she’s going to freak out. She’s not going to be able to do that. That is probably going to cause more damage than leaving those things in because the stress of cutting those things out is going to be a nightmare. We’re going to say, “Here’s the ideal of what we would remove so that we can heal. What in this list do you feel like you can remove?” She says, “This, this, and this.” We say, “Great. We’re going to do that.”

We have the other end of the spectrum where someone has been so sick for so long that cutting those things out, they’re already 2/3 of the way there anyway. We’re going to cut it out. That will help you heal faster. The more you can follow that elimination food plan, the faster you will heal like you can heal a broken arm by putting it in a sling and not in a cast, and it will heal.

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It will heal a little bit slower because you’re still moving it. You’re still causing some stress, but it’s still going to heal. We say that we have an expert-to-expert approach in our practice. You’re the expert in your body and your life. We’re experts in nutrition and lifestyle. We’re going to come together as an expert-to-expert approach versus me being the expert and you being the peon. Me saying, “You have to do this,” and you saying you can’t. We meet our clients where they’re at. That might mean that healing takes a little longer, but it will happen.

Excellent. Diet, specifically, do you talk to people about specific foods that are better for brain health?

We use something called the Mito Food Plan or the Mitochondria Food Plan. It is akin to a keto food plan but without focusing on bacon and cheese. Depending on what someone is dealing with, we walk them towards these food plans that are going to optimize the health and the places where they’re struggling. Brain health, we know that we need a high amount of omega-3s. We know that we need a lot of phytonutrients. Phytonutrients are the things that make food colorful, red, orange, yellow, green, and purple. There technically aren’t blues but the blue-purple-black category. We talk about fats, phytonutrients, and foods that are going to help heal that gut lining.

If we’re causing inflammation in that gut lining, as I said before, it’s akin to having the flu every single time you eat and how well are you thinking when you have the flu. You are not. You’re laying on the couch in the fog. We say, “If these foods are causing this brain fog, we need to remove those things because they’re causing inflammation.” I don’t know if that answered your question. Did it?

There’s a lot in there. I have to turn up my speed of listening to match your speed of speaking, and the passion for your work is evident. I’m attributing some of it to that. When you mentioned the omega-3s, I immediately thought of something that I’ve been hearing about the need to balance a certain percentage of omega-3s with omega-6s. Can you address that? If so, how do you work with that with people? Do you have a specific supplement that has them balanced?

Omega-3s are anti-inflammatory omegas. The omega-6s are the inflammatory omegas. Inflammatory gets a bad rap. We say that’s inflammatory and someone says, “I need to avoid that.” Inflammation is your body’s healing response. When you get a cut and it swells up and it turns red, that’s your body sending an inflammation immune response to that area to heal.

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Inflammation is necessary to heal. If we don’t have inflammation, our body doesn’t know where to send those healing antibodies, white blood cells, and things like that. Omega-6s is your inflammatory and there’s also omega-9s, which people don’t think about very often. The way that I like to explain that is this. Imagine you have a bunch of little bags and you have a bunch of little party favors for a little kid’s birthday. You want to be able to put a pencil, eraser, and whatever in every bag.

The erasers come in packs of ten and the pencils come in packs of four. It becomes this math problem like how many of each packet do you need to buy to make sure that everybody has the same thing. Omegas are the same way. The thing about omega-6s, we are lush in omega-6s in our standard American diet. Omega-6s are in fried food and processed food. They’re in those lower-quality oils like vegetable oil, peanut oil, and canola oil.

We have way more omega-6s for the most part than we need. We need those omega-3s and those omega-9s to balance it out. What we want to look for in food is we want to look to reduce our omega-6s because we have too many and increase our omega-9s. It is almost impossible for someone to have too few omega-6s. It’s possible. It might be 1 in 10,000 people who do have not enough omega-6s.

It’s those omega-3s s that we need. From a diet perspective, we want to look at where we are getting our omega-6s. We want to reduce that, then we want to increase our food sources of omega-3s. We’re probably going to have to supplement our omega-3s because if we go back to that bags of candy and treats, our omega-6s are the erasers that come in packs of 100. Our omega-3s are pencils that come in packs of three. We need a lot more packages of pencils in order to balance out the one packet of erasers.

What kinds of food are rich in omega-3s and omega-9s, if we can get that through food?

Good fatty foods are avocados, wild-caught salmon, and walnuts are all outstanding sources of omegas, Also, chia seeds and flax seeds. Although, you do have to make sure that you eat your flax seeds ground or in a flax oil because our bodies can’t absorb it if you eat it in a whole seed. Those are all good. I’m going to forget the exact ratio, but if you want to be sufficient in omega-3s from diet alone, it is 3 pieces of good wild-caught fatty salmon, 2 avocados, half a pound of walnuts, and 15 teaspoons of flax seeds a week in order to get enough omega-3s from our diet.

It’s possible. I just don’t know a whole lot of people who eat that much salmon and that much walnuts and flax seeds. We’re not getting it. We’re going to do our absolute best to get what we can from our diet. That’s one of what we call everybody every day. We have four supplements that we say everybody every day should be taking because even though we want to get it from our food, we’re not, and omega-3s are one of those.

D-3 and K-2 are super crucial. Anybody north of the 38th parallel is deficient in vitamin D from October to May, no matter what we do. The majority of people, especially people who work an office job and aren’t outside gardening all day are deficient all year long. D-3 is so crucial. D-3 and K-2 are one. Magnesium is the second one. The stat from NCBI said that 87% of Americans are deficient in magnesium.

Magnesium is required for 300 plus different functions in our body. If we’re deficient in magnesium, nothing is working right. Ideally, we should be able to get that from food but with industrial farming, synthetic fertilizers, and all this. Our food is so deficient in magnesium that we’re not going to get it. Those are D-3, magnesium, and omega-3s because we’re not getting it. Also, we say phytonutrients.

Phytonutrients are those things that make food colorful and we’re not getting it. We love things like powdered greens, juice plus, or some of these other things that are encapsulating fruits and vegetables that are organic. That’s super important in getting them into our bodies because we don’t eat enough color.

You got to eat your color.

Eat the rainbow, just not Skittles. Eat the actual rainbow.

Now you’ve talked about this brain functioning and inflammation and depression. What about people who have a real ongoing issue with anxiety?

We talk about anxiety the same way we talk about depression. There’s a psychological piece of it and there’s also a body functioning piece of it. That psychological piece are things like the way that we process our thoughts, our own internal processing of the world, whether we have a negative interpretation or a positive interpretation, and how we take control and take captive our own thoughts.

It’s also about trauma, anxiety, and the things that have happened in our past that have defined how we relate to the present. All of those things are real causes of anxiety and very real places where therapy, counseling, and all of these therapies can help. There’s the physical piece of that. Anxiety is typically a cortisol response.

It’s a stress response to opening our email, checking our phone, or going out into a social event that is triggering in our body the exact same response from our ancient human selves that tell us to run away from a saber tooth tiger. What is physically happening in your body is a cortisol response. What we want to look at is, in your body, how we can reduce that cortisol response so that if your cortisol is normally here, we wanted to get it to lower, so our normal cortisol is lower.

When we are in a situation that is a little nerve-wracking and maybe uncomfortable where we’re dealing with anxiety, we now have some room to work instead of overflowing that cup. That’s the layman’s term. How do we do that? The first thing we need to do is we need to figure out how your cortisol is functioning. Ideally, cortisol should spike in the morning and it should decrease slowly throughout the day with a little bit of a spike in the afternoon. It should be the lowest when we go to bed.

For people who deal with chronic anxiety, a lot of times the cortisol map is completely flipped. They struggle to get up in the morning. It’s hard for them to wake up. Their cortisol slowly increases throughout the day. When it’s time to go to bed or maybe they have gone to bed but then at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning, they’re waking up and freaking out, that is the cortisol map.

The way that we do that is we do that with some herbs and supplements that help your body regulate that cortisol level, things like Ashwagandha and holy basil help your body regulate. We do that by decreasing inflammation because inflammation is a cortisol response. The same thing back to you. If you jump off a swing and break your arm, your body is immediately in a fight or flight response.

If you have inflammation going on in your body from gut health, poor diet, or something like that, your body is constantly pumping cortisol into your body trying to regulate that immune response. We have to get that immune response decreased. We have to work on some of those lifestyle factors like exercise, what you are eating, and if are you taking care of your thyroid with selenium and iodine so that your body is supporting you from the inside out. A lot of times, people think that anxiety is a mental issue like, “It’s just all in my head,” and it’s not. It’s probably 90% from your neck down and maybe 10% in your head.

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Gut And Mental Health: People think that anxiety is just a mental issue like it’s just all in the head, and it’s not. It’s probably 90% from your neck down and maybe 10% in your head.

 

Sleep deprivation is a fundamental process that feeds a lot of these other things. It can look like anxiety or depression, and the list of things that can be caused by sleep deprivation. There’s a reason that every, whether it’s brainwashing or torture, technique uses sleep deprivation because they know how disruptive it can be to our sensory processes and our perception. If your cortisol levels are flipped to the point where you can’t get a decent night’s sleep, without even realizing it, you are operating from that sleep deprivation piece, and it can look like a lot of these other problems.

I could not have said that better. We’re exacerbating a problem because our biological chemistry is flipped upside down and we need the right side it.

I should mention that every time I’ve been told about and done research on or been told by a medical doctor about a sleep aid, I’ve never encountered a sleep aid that didn’t have as a side effect of long-term use that it causes insomnia. They are only ever designed to be a short-term thing to break a cycle and then allow the person to start sleeping. If you keep taking them, they caused a very problem that you’re trying to get rid of.

A lot of times sleep deprivation is a cortisol issue, but a lot of times, it has to do with a magnesium deficiency as well. Taking magnesium is one of the first things that we do when someone is dealing with anxiety and insomnia because if you don’t have enough magnesium, your body cannot unwind. Melatonin is a mixed one.

Melatonin is about a 30/30/30 percent success rate. Thirty percent of people have great responses to melatonin. Thirty percent of people don’t affect them at all, and 30% of people have weird psychedelic dreams. Melatonin is a hormone. When we introduce oral melatonin or melatonin under the tongue, it can cause a whole host of other issues. Magnesium and getting that cortisol rebalanced are two of the easiest, most long-term solutions to insomnia. Sleep aids are not. They make it worse.

In this mix of things you do with people, focused primarily on nutrition, do you edge over into exercise?

Yes. We cover exercise, self-worth, and thought patterns. We work through lifestyle. We talk about insomnia because that’s where we’re at. If you’re on your phone until 3:00 in the morning because you’re anxious, you’ve now told your brain that it’s daylight because we’re getting blue light in our eyeballs. How can we swap out that phone for something that’s going to help us sleep?

Exercise, thought patterns, nutrition, lifestyle habits around how we treat ourselves, and understanding what self-care is, that’s a huge place that we focus. A lot of people think about self-care being a bubble bath and chocolate cake. What we teach people is that self-care is doing the unsexy things that care for you. Self-care is more like self-parenting than it is self-care.

It’s things like having a budget so you know where you’re at. It’s things like setting up your weekend so that you can clean your house for two hours and not feel stressed about how dirty your house is all week long. One of my clients said this so well. She said, “I was never taught how to be an adult. Now I’m an adult and I feel like I’m failing at being an adult because I don’t understand how to have a budget. Nobody ever told me to spend two hours on a Friday cleaning my house so that I can have the whole rest of the weekend to myself. No one ever told me to have one day of the weekend to rest and the other day of the weekend to play. Nobody taught me how to cook dinner for myself.” We work on all of that.

I probably write or message in one way or another to people about self-care as much or more than any other single thing and being gentle with oneself. The Buddhists have this idea of the second suffering. The first one is when the event happens, then the second level is, “I beat myself up because I should have prevented it,” or, “I should have known,” or, “How stupid I was to let that happen.” All of that, once you’re educated into the idea that it isn’t necessary, it certainly isn’t productive. If somebody helps me understand that I don’t need to keep doing that to myself, I remove a tremendous amount of discomfort and suffering right there.

If a little kid didn’t know how to cook themself dinner, what would you do? You would help them cook themselves dinner. As an adult, if we don’t know how to cook ourselves dinner, we shame ourselves. We beat ourselves up. We tell ourselves how horrible we are. We need to find someone to teach us how to cook dinner. It is being gentle with ourselves and understanding that we are always in process birthed until death and that process will never end.

The idea of being gentle with myself, for so many of the people I work with, is such a foreign concept because as Michael Singer would point out, we let an abusive roommate live in our heads rent-free. If we had a friend who talked to us the way we talked to ourselves, we’d kick them out of our lives before it was noon and we get used to it.

By the time you see something on a comedian’s stage, it is part of the fabric of our culture and our individual personal lives. One of the things you’ll see so often is, “You idiot,” and all these self-deprecating comments and sometimes nasty ones. I remember the first time I heard from a woman. She’s a Jewish Buddhist grandmotherly type. Her name was Sylvia Boorstein.

Somebody mentioned that they’d heard her write about this thing she does. When she gets upset, she puts her hand over her heart space and talks gently to herself. She says, “Sylvia, sweetheart, you’re in pain. Take a few deep breaths, calm down, then we’ll look at what’s going on then we’ll decide what to do. For now, Timmy, sweetheart, you’re in pain.”

The most important thing is to acknowledge the pain, comfort yourself, and quit adding to it by telling yourself you should have been doing something differently. In that self-soothing process, everything you were talking about before with the stress response and the fight or flight, and the cortisol, if I practice that, those words, that comforting attitude toward myself is going to help lower those chemical spikes in me.

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Gut And Mental Health: Acknowledge the pain, comfort yourself, and quit adding to it by telling yourself you should have been doing something differently.

 

To tie that back to nutrition, your body can’t absorb nutrients if you’re in that fight or flight state. You could be eating perfectly, but if you’re beating yourself up and giving yourself those unkind messages, it doesn’t matter how perfectly you’re eating. Your body’s not going to pull those nutrients anyway because you have to be in that parasympathetic rest and digest nervous system state like, “Hally, you’re hurting. Take a breath. You’re okay. I got you. We’re all right.” Everything works from there.

I teach people a simple pattern of breathing to try and initiate that parasympathetic rest and digest response. I would imagine that you at least allude to breathwork at some point in your work with people.

We do. In our course, when someone starts working with us, we’re going to customize their functional medicine lifestyle path to them. We have what we call our foundations module, which is it doesn’t matter what you’re working on. It doesn’t matter if you’re working on gut health, adrenal health, nutrition imbalance, or weight loss. These are the things that you have to understand in order to live a nourished life, and breathing is one of those things, like how you feel your stomach, not your chest. People who have anxiety tend to breathe in their shoulders a lot instead of in their bellies. That stimulates that vagus nerve. That is one of the absolute foundations of health and wellness and living a nourished life.

If you get centered for a minute and take a breath and think, “Here’s all of this stuff we’ve talked about so far,” is there something we’ve already mentioned you want to go back and highlight or is there another aspect of your work we haven’t even touched on yet that you want to bring up?

I think it’s this, which we have already touched on but to reiterate it and maybe reframe it in a different way. Whether it’s mental health, trauma, physical health, or whatever, how you have been eating, what has happened to you is not your fault but what you do with it is your responsibility. If you have been eating a Midwestern diet of casseroles and you feel sick, that’s not your fault. That’s what you were taught.

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Learning how to fuel yourself in a way that is going to heal you and help you grow and move forward is your responsibility. Healing from trauma, abuse, and all of those things is not your fault. Getting into counseling and finding someone who can help you heal from the inside out is your responsibility. In one of our phrases at Live Nourished Coaching, we say, “Healed people heal people.”

That comes from the hurt people hurt people, but we believe that. If you learn how to live a nourished life, mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually, every single person in your sphere of influence is going to benefit from that. Take that responsibility, that next step, find a counselor, a nutritionist, a health coach, someone who can be in your corner and help you start to take those steps towards wholeness.

Hearing you say that puts me in mind of Laura McKowen’s book, Push Off from Here. She has these nine statements that someone asked her to give advice on as she is recovering from her addiction process. She went through a whole bunch of things, but then she said, “If all of that is too much, here’s a list of nine things that I needed to hear and I still need to hear.”

It takes those nine things. She mentions those in the first book. In the second book, she spends time expanding on each of those nine things. One of them is it’s not your fault, and the other one is it is your responsibility. You might enjoy the book Push Off From Here by Laura McKowen or get in touch with her. We Are The Luckiest was her first book and The Luckiest Club is the support group that they run online these days. Those nine statements, I’m sure you would agree with all of them, are available even if you don’t want to access the entire book. Let us know. If people want to reach out to you, what’s the best way to have them contact you?

On our website, we have a button to book a free consult, so www.LiveNourishedCoaching.com. We do a free consult. Our goal in that free consult is to help you take the next step in the right direction. That might be an invitation to work with us. That might be a referral to a practitioner that is who you need. We have a list of 60-plus practitioners that we refer out to all the time. That might be a, “Go try this for three months, come back and tell me what to do.” If you don’t know where to start or you’ve gotten to a point where you’ve hit a wall and you don’t know what to do next, I would love to talk to you. Book a free consult and we’ll help walk you through where you’re at and where to go.

I thank you so much for taking the time to share with our audience and I wish you all the best.

Thank you so much, Dr. Hayes. Thank you for having me on. It’s been an honor.

Hally Brooke is the Founder and CEO of Live Nourished Coaching. She is a Certified Functional Medicine Nutrition Counselor and a Nationally Board-Certified Health and Wellness Coach. She’s also a Fox 21 fitness and nutrition expert and a fierce industry advocate. She has built a thriving nationwide functional medicine health coaching practice based on her own personal experience of overcoming serious gastrointestinal issues including IBS and SIBO. Her education and training all put her in a place where she has built a program that works with clients in all key areas of wellness, including movement, nutrition, mindset, resilience, relationships, and self-care.

Hally’s mission at Live Nourished Coaching is to make the life-changing power of health coaching accessible to every single person in the United States. As a start, Hally and her company move this mission forward through direct-to-client coaching and innovative strategic partnerships with medical practitioners.

She has become an international speaker and a top-level medical practice consultant and she’s built a world-class health coaching agency. What inspires her to do this work every day is getting to see her clients move from illness to health, then from health to wellness, thriving in their lives and finding their own internal motivation to live nourished.

 

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OYM Hally Brooke | Gut And Mental HealthHally Brooke is the Founder & CEO of Live Nourished Coaching. She is a Certified Functional Medicine Nutrition Counselor, Nationally Board-Certified Health & Wellness Coach, Fox 21 Fitness & Nutrition Expert, and fierce industry advocate.
She has built a thriving, nationwide, Functional Medicine Health Coaching practice based on her own personal experience, (of overcoming serious GI issues including IBS & SIBO), and her education and training. She has built a program that works with clients in ALL the key areas of wellness including movement, nutrition, mindset, resilience, relationships, and self-care.

Her mission at Live Nourished Coaching, is to make the life-changing power of health coaching accessible to every single person in the US (to start). Hally and her company move this mission forward through direct-to-client coaching and innovative strategic partnerships with medical practitioners.

She has become an international speaker, top level medical practice consultant and built a world-class health coaching agency. But what inspires her to do this work every day is getting to see her clients move from illness to health and then from health to wellness, thriving in their lives, finding their own internal
motivation to Live Nourished.

 

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