OYM Bradley Nelson | The Body Code


The body is capable of healing itself. It knows what it needs to thrive and flourish. There is an approach to dealing with the root causes of our physical, mental, and emotional issues. In this episode, Dr. Bradley Nelson, the Author of The Body Code, unlocks some key points on a new powerful approach to natural, intuitive healing of the body. The Body Code is a road map that helps identify and release imbalances in our body to activate its innate healing power. This book explains the subconscious mind is the internal intelligence system to speak what our body needs. Tap into your inner knowing with Dr. Bradley Nelson to identify those imbalances and activate your body’s power to heal itself today!

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Dr. Bradley Nelson’s New Book: The Body Code

Dr. Bradley Nelson, doctor of chiropractic, retired, is a veteran holistic physician. He’s one of the world’s foremost experts on natural methods of achieving wellness. He has trained thousands of certified practitioners worldwide to help people overcome physical and emotional discomfort by releasing their emotional baggage.

His bestselling book, The Emotion Code, provides step-by-step instructions for working with the body’s energy healing power. My interview with Dr. Nelson about The Emotion Code book was published on the Journey’s Dream, On Your Mind show in October of 2021. Please refer back to that for a more detailed explanation of The Emotion Code. Dr. Bradley’s new book, The Body Code, greatly expands the range of issues that can be addressed with this powerful mind-body energy technique. For more information, visit DiscoverHealing.com.

Dr. Nelson, thank you so much for joining us. It’s a delight to see you. I’m very grateful that you would make the time for us.

Thank you, Timothy, for having me on again. It’s great to see you. I’m looking forward to our show.

I’m hoping you can take us wherever you want to take us to explore parts of the book. We certainly can’t go through the whole book, but whatever parts of The Body Code you want to share with us.

Let’s talk about this for a minute. Let’s go back to 1980. I was a student in college. I needed one more class to round out my schedule. I suddenly offered a class on computer programming in the basic language. I signed up for that. We were using these old Radio Shack TRS-80 computers, and they used cassette tapes to store the programs that we would write. It was all very basic and simple, yet there was something about it that completely captivated me. I became a computer programmer. I was pretty much entirely self-taught except for that one class in a language that I never ended up using. I did a lot of programming for people in what came to be known as xBase languages, FoxBase, dBASE II, and dBASE III. Only people that are my age remember these.

I remember learning to work with dBASE III +.

I spent a whole year on the phone with Ashton-Tate, the company that had come out with dBASE II. I taught myself how it all works. I created a little business called the Computer Tutor, where I’d go into people’s businesses and I would learn their flow. These were people who bought an IBM PC and they didn’t have any software and didn’t know what to do with it.

I would go in and I would figure out what the flow of their business was. I would try to write the software using these xBase languages so they could get some use out of the computer. Back then, it was also simple compared to how it is now. There were no graphical interfaces. It was all just green phosphor screens and it was all text-based. I had a lot of fun doing that, and I enjoyed it. I made quite a bit of money doing that and was doing well.

My father one day asks me out of the blue if I don’t want to go into the healing arts because that was my original dream. I said no. He said, “Why don’t you think about it one more time?” I had this experience where I prayed and asked for guidance about this. I got guidance and I got a very clear and very powerful answer to a prayer. I talk about it in The Body Code book. That brought me back to this old dream of mine of going into the healing arts. It’s because I had been healed of kidney disease by some alternative doctors back when I was thirteen years old.

Anyway, here I am. I’m a computer programmer, but now I’m in chiropractic school. The school finds out somehow that I was a programmer, so then they hired me to write their admissions office software. They needed some stuff done. I did that and helped to put myself through school. I can remember sitting in class one day and listening to my neurology instructor talking about the brain and how the brain is a computer.

I remember sitting there, listening to him, and having these thoughts of how the brain’s a computer. I know about computers. If the brain’s a computer, I wonder if someday far into the future, we’ll have some kind of an interface. We’ll be able to access all the information and all the intelligence that must be in the brain. The brain must know on some level what’s wrong with people and what people need. I filed that away.

When I got out of practice, I went and worked for a guy in Montana. I’m from Montana. I went to work for a guy in Kalispell named Dr. Stan Flagg, who is quite elderly now and retired long since. This is many years ago. I learned some powerful things from him that had to do with the subconscious mind and how the subconscious mind is the internal computer besides the brain.

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We all have the physical brain that’s in our heads. That’s important and so on. We know that when the brain is injured, we are impaired in certain ways, but there’s also this subconscious mind that’s running everything, keeping track of everything that we’re doing, and remembering every face we’ve ever seen in a crowd. That’s creating all these chemical reactions for us and keeping us alive from one moment to the next.

I’m convinced that every moment of our life is an ongoing miracle. We go from one miracle moment to the next because we shouldn’t even survive because we’re made of pure energy. There is something, and I believe it’s the divine force that keeps all these myriad subatomic particles together. They’re all flying in formation, allowing us to have these experiences we’re having in this world.

I learned some amazing things from him about asking questions and getting answers from the subconscious mind. When I got into my own practice, I expanded on that as the years went by. I was obsessed with getting to the underlying causes of what was wrong with my patients. I was driven in that way. I had no interest at all in Band-Aiding people, that drove me crazy. I wanted to know. “Why is this person having this problem? What are the real true underlying causes?”

It was because of that obsession to get to the underlying causes that I kept looking. I researched ancient methods of healing, modern methods, forgotten methods, and methods that were frowned upon. I looked up. I studied everything that I could study. I found that some things worked and some things didn’t. I kept the ones that did work and got rid of the ones that didn’t work.

As time went on, one of the things that I found was that the subconscious mind or that spirit intelligence within each one of us is very willing to give up its answers. Eventually, the interface for that subconscious computer became clear to me. If you think about the interface on a laptop, what’s the interface? It’s two things. Primarily, it’s the screen where you see things, and then it’s the keyboard where you can type in information. On your phone, the interface is the screen, and then you can touch things, so it’s a touch interface.

The subconscious mind has a very unique interface. The subconscious mind is a computer, I believe, and it does know exactly what’s wrong and what you need, but the interface is different. There’s no keyboard for the body. There’s no screen for the body. Instead, what we use is typically some form of muscle testing. What I found was that the subconscious mind would respond with strength or a strong muscle to show a yes answer or a weaker muscle to show a no answer. This isn’t something that I came up with. This has been around for a long time. A lot of the things that are in The Body Code, I talk in there about how if I can see further than other men like Isaac Newton said, “It’s because I stand on the shoulders of giants.” That’s how The Body Code is too.

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The Body Code: Unlocking Your Body’s Ability to Heal Itself

The Body Code is a compilation of the things that I had learned. A lot of it is from discoveries that other people have made. Some of those things that are in The Body Code are things that were received by me in response to prayer asking for help for a certain person. I’ll share some of those that are fun. Anyway, what I learned was that I could ask the subconscious mind some questions.

I could talk to the computer that was within each of my patients. I could ask questions, I could get answers, and I could ask about what the real reasons were for their problems. The subconscious mind would answer me. I could then figure out what that person needed and help that person to get what they needed. I could release the things that shouldn’t be there, and I could give them whatever they needed that should be there.

The result was people got better, and they got better in short order most of the time. It was powerful. During the last ten years that I was in practice, most of the people that I saw had been told there was no help and cure for them at all, yet the vast majority of those people, just a couple of exceptions, were able to get well because I was doing something that other people weren’t doing. I was talking to this internal computer.

I remember once, I had a new patient that came into me who was dealing with probably fibromyalgia, which is pain all over the body, and that was one of the things that I saw a lot of. There’s no real hope for that in Western medicine. All you can do is take these drugs forever and they really don’t know what causes it. The underlying causes are different for every person, but I had great results with those people.

Anyway, I have this new patient that I’m talking to. At one point, I was in a certain mood and said, “Listen, I’m clueless about what’s wrong with you.” She looked at me and her eyes got big, and I said, “It’s okay. Don’t worry. Your subconscious mind knows exactly why you’re dealing with these problems and why you’re having these symptoms. I know how to talk to it so we can figure this out. Don’t worry.” That put her at ease. She did go on to get better.

I always had a computer there with me in my practice as I was working on people. As I would find new things, or as I would be guided to discover some new thing or some new thing would be shown to me, I was always then going to the computer and trying to organize things. I was building what ended up being a massive database or a knowledge base, the different kinds of imbalances that cause our mental, emotional, and physical symptoms. I had some interesting experiences, and I’ll share a couple of them with you.

One day, this fellow came in to see me. He was about 42 years old. He said that four years before he’d been in this car accident, he was rear-ended. His car got damaged and he injured his neck. He said that his neck bothered him a lot. In fact, he said that his neck pain was about a 9 on a 0 to 10 scale at that moment. That’s really painful. He said it had never gotten better since the accident. His neck still hurt like the day after the accident. Those were his exact words. I thought, “That’s weird.” He had seen a couple of doctors for this too. Nothing was helping him. I thought, “That’s strange.” After four years, you’d think his neck would’ve healed.

My habit was before I would go to work on someone, I would pause and ask for help from up above. I believed it was God that had gotten me into this whole career. It was an answered prayer to go into the healing arts. Because God had gotten me into this, I felt like maybe God will help me now. That was a habit that I had all the years that I was in practice. Ever since then with anybody that I needed to work with, I found that’s a critical part.

It has to do with the fact that the highest duty of the healer is to act as a go-between for that higher power as an instrument in the hands of God, source synergy, or however you want to refer to it. We all have different beliefs, and that’s fine. My own personal belief is that God is real. I know that he is real, that he lives, that he’s our father, and that we’re literally brothers and sisters.

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That’s what I would do. In my own mind, I would ask, “Father in heaven, please help me to help this person.” That’s what I did with this guy. It’s a momentary pause. All of this is going on in my mind. I never told anybody that I was saying a prayer for them, but I was. It was a habit that I had with every person that I saw over all that time.

In this guy’s case, he’s got this weird neck pain for four years, still a 9 out of 10. I thought, “Father in heaven, if there’s something I need to know about this, help me to understand this because this seems weird.” I get this answer and understanding that flows into me. When God wants to give you information, he can open you up and pour it in. That’s what he did on this day. The understanding that flowed into me was that, in the accident, some of the kinetic energy that was created in that accident had become trapped or lodged in his neck.

Think about this. He’s sitting at a light, stopped, and he’s rear-ended. There are probably hundreds of tons of kinetic energy that are released in the accident. That’s the energy that crumples the fenders and bends the frame of the car. Some of that energy passes through his body. Instead of going through his body, some of it got stuck. That was the answer. That answer flowed in, and then that was it. There wasn’t anything further. I just thought, “That’s weird. Some of the energy from the accident itself, from the other car hitting him, is stuck in his neck.” I thought, “Let’s see what happens.”

I took a magnet and swiped it a few times. In The Emotion Code and The Body Code, that’s basically what we do. You can use a magnet or your hand. It is also magnetic. If you don’t have a magnet, it’s fine. I took a magnet and swiped it down his back a few times down the governing meridian to release that energy that had gotten stuck in his neck. That’s how things are done through intention. I said, “Why don’t you move your neck around?” He’s head forward, tilts it left and right, he turns his head, and he said, “How did you do that?” I said, “Why? How does it feel?” He said, “I would say it’s about a 2 now, from a 9 to a 2.” I said, “When was the last time it felt that good?” He said, “Before the accident.”

I came to call this a physical trauma energy. It’s one of the things you can learn about in The Emotion Code book. Think about this, how many people are walking around with that kind of energy stuck in their bodies? It depends on where that energy lodges. It doesn’t always stay where you receive the blow. Sometimes maybe you hit your head getting into a car or something. That energy might create a trauma that might lodge somewhere else in the body where you might have some other weakness. Surgery will often leave a person with this kind of trauma. A lot of people are walking around with this kind of trauma, and it’s one of the first things that we teach people how to find and fix in The Body Code book.

That was one. There have been some other ones too. Some other really interesting things happened when I was in practice. Here’s one. My wife and I have been married for many years. We probably should have a moment of silence for my wife. She’s been a guinea pig for me for many years. She’s had a lot of different things that I’ve been able to learn from her in many ways.

Anyway, our youngest is a young adult. When my wife was pregnant with her, she was begging me to help her because she was suffering from morning sickness and it was miserable. You know morning sicknesses where you’ve got this nausea. In other countries, like Germany, they don’t call it morning sickness. It’s called the nausea of pregnancy.

It can be all day long.

It can be for months. It can be for an entire pregnancy. My wife was begging me to help her. I’m thinking about all the different things that I had tried with other patients that had never worked, like chewing on ginger or wearing those wristband little beads to stimulate the acupuncture meridians. Honestly, I had never seen any of those things or any of the numbers of other things that I had ever heard of. I’d never seen any of them work for morning sickness. Some of them might give slight temporary relief.

This is another one of those situations where I thought, “None of the things that I’ve ever used have worked.” My custom was to say a prayer. I said, “Father in heaven, if there’s a better way to help Jean with this morning sickness, please help me to know what it might be. None of the things I’ve ever tried have ever worked. Thank you. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.” As a Christian, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen means so be it.

I get this answer. This answer suddenly flows into me, and it was almost whimsical. The answer was, “You’d feel pretty sick too if you had this new life growing inside of you, especially if your brain wasn’t connected to it.” That was the answer. I thought, “Wait, so it’s a connection problem?” What I did with my wife is I started testing her to see how well her brain was connected to the fetus, umbilical, placenta, amniotic fluid, and all of those things. I found some areas were not connected. What I would do is I would swipe a few times with the intention down her back to reconnect those things.

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The Body Code: With a new life growing inside you, you feel sick if there is a disconnection between your brain and pregnancy.


I found that it was a two-way communication. Not only did her brain need to connect from above down to those different parts, but those different parts had to communicate with the brain also. It was a full-duplex communication, both ways. Once I reconnected the last thing that was disconnected, and she was ready to throw up, instantly the nausea was gone. Awesome. It stays gone for a couple of days, and then it starts to come back again. I rechecked her again. I found there was another disconnection going on. I fixed that by swiping a few times, and the morning sickness is gone.

It was about another probably 3 or 4 days when she was fine, and then it started to come back a little. I rechecked and there was one thing that had shorted out again, and I had to fix it. That was it. We never had another problem. I was super excited about this because I thought, “How many women suffer from morning sickness?” There are so many.

The drug companies have tried to do things that haven’t worked out well. For example, thalidomide. They created all kinds of deformed babies. I was excited about this and thought, “This needs to get out to the world.” I took out a big ad in the paper in the Orange County Register in California. “We’re going to do a free study on this. You can come to my office. We’ll work on you for free if you have morning sickness.” We had one woman that showed up.

Only one woman?

I don’t know. I didn’t do it right. It wasn’t exciting or compelling enough. I don’t know, but we were able to help her. The rest of them, I guess, were too sick to come. Over the years I’ve used this, it’s amazing how well it works. This is just one thing that’s in The Body Code. That led to other understandings. it led to a deeper understanding of what the interface is like or the interface between the spirit and the physical body.

If you go to a funeral and you look at the person lying there in the casket, it’s obvious that something’s changed and something’s gone out of them. It was back in about 1905 when they did a study on people who were close to death. What they would do is when they were right near the end of their life, they’d put them on a fine scale, a really sensitive scale. They wanted to know if, at the moment of death, there was a change in weight. Their theory was that the spirit has a very small amount of weight, and if the spirit leaves the body, it should be detectable on a very fine scale. Guess what they found? They found that at the moment of death, the body on average loses about 21 grams of weight, which is not much.

Is that the weight of the spirit leaving the body? I like to think that it is. People have seen the spirit leave the body. There are stories like that all over the place and books written about that. In fact, back in the ’70s or early ’80s, there was a guy that made the rounds on a lot of the talk shows back then with Phil Donahue and shows like that. What happened was, as I recall, he was a passenger in an airliner that went down and crashed. He was thrown out of the wreckage.

When he regained consciousness, he was in the weeds, and the plane he saw was on fire. He goes over to the fuselage of the plane to see if he can help anybody, he looks inside, and these people are still strapped into their seats. It’s like a furnace in there, and they’re all dying. What he said was that he was able to see these people’s spirits leave their bodies at the moment that they would die. Normally, it’s not something that you would see, but maybe because of the trauma, he was able to see this.

Anyway, he said that when these spirits would come out of their bodies, they were no longer in pain or anything. They would come right out of the top of their heads. Their whole spirit would look just like them. It would go out of the top of their heads and go right up through the ceiling of the fuselage and disappear. What he said that was so interesting to me was that some of these spirits leaving these bodies were really bright to look at, and some were not. Some were shades of gray. 1 or 2 of them might have been dark.

He said that he understood what that meant and what that was about. It was about who that person was while they were alive and the kind of choices that they made. If they were a good person, then they chose light. If they headed to choose darkness or did bad things, they were evil. He made it his goal to have a bright and shiny spirit when his spirit leaves his body and goes on.

While we’re alive, there is this interface between that spirit and the physical body. I believe that if you could take your spirit out of your body and put it right next to you, it would look exactly like you in the minutest detail. Hopefully, mine would have hair, I don’t know. Sometimes when the spirit leaves the body completely, you’re dead because it’s the spirit that animates the physical. The spirit’s like the software, and the physical body is like the hardware.

What I found was that you can become mostly disconnected. The spirit and the physical might have problems communicating. That’s one of the fascinating things that is also in The Body Code. There’s a lot in there. We also have found that when we talk about someone having a broken heart, that’s something that exists. It’s not the physical heart that breaks, but the spiritual counterpart of the physical heart can be broken because of things that people have been through like traumas, emotional upsets, bad relationships, you name it. That’s one of the things that we can find and fix. You can fix a broken heart. It’s one of the things that’s in The Body Code. There’s a lot in there.

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Like you said at the beginning, we can’t possibly talk about everything, but I will share a couple of stories with you. There was a woman that came in to see me one day who’d been hospitalized for five days with this pain in her abdomen. They had run every test known. They couldn’t find anything. They finally dismissed her from the hospital, saying they couldn’t help her. All the tests were negative.

She comes in to see me. Her pain level is about a 9 on a 0 to 10 scale. I started asking some questions, getting answers from her subconscious mind using muscle testing, and trying to figure out why she had this pain. I found a couple of trapped emotions that were in her body. We talked about those last time. I found a couple of other imbalances, and then something showed up. I was taken in The Body Code to an area that we call nutrition and lifestyle into a chart of nutrients. Just like we find a trapped emotion by asking if it’s in column A or column B, etc., it’s organized the same way, columns and rows.

I’m asking her subconscious mind what nutrients she needs. Her muscle testing goes strong on this element called chromium. I thought, “Chromium is great for maintaining stable blood sugar and some other things. It doesn’t have anything to do with what’s wrong with her now. It doesn’t have anything to do with this pain.” I remember saying to her, “We’re out of chromium now. We usually carry it, but we’re out of it. Your subconscious is telling us it’s something that you need. You should get some at some point.” I didn’t think much of it.

Anyway, her treatment ends. There’s nothing else to find on her. She goes home. She’s still in pain, by the way. The next day, she comes back in and her pain level is worse. She’s like ten-plus. I remember thinking, “I don’t know how they possibly could have missed this in the hospital, but it’s got to be appendicitis.” Her appendix is going to burst. This is literally what I was thinking. I was thinking, “Her appendix is going to burst, she’s going to die, and I’m going to go to jail.”

I couldn’t believe that they had missed it, but I didn’t know what else it could be. The pain was severe. I didn’t know what else to do, so I started asking questions of her subconscious mind. Out of all the thousands of possibilities that I could have been taken to, I was taken right to this same section, nutrients and this chart to chromium. It was only at that moment that I remembered, “That showed up yesterday.” I hadn’t thought anything of it at all. I thought it was totally an incidental thing that the body was giving us something out of the left field, “By the way, someday eventually you might want to give me this.”

It showed up again, and then I remembered, “That showed up yesterday.” I said, “I don’t know why. I think you really need chromium. I want you to leave my office right now. I want you to go down the street to the health food store. I want you to buy some chromium tablets or capsules and ask them for some water. Don’t even wait. Go ahead and take some right then, and then come back.”

She was in her mid-twenties. Twenty minutes later, this very athletic young woman is literally jumping up and down in my waiting room and saying, “I’m fixed.” She’s so excited. She said that the moment she took the chromium, the pain instantly was gone. She said, “How did that work?” I said, “I have no idea.” I said, “Your subconscious mind knew that you needed that. Why that was triggering so much pain?” I still to this day have no idea. The body will always have some kind of a check engine light that comes on.

It is to get our attention.

It’s often pain, but it could be something else. It could be depression, anxiety, phobias, panic attacks, PTSD, an eating disorder, or self-sabotage. It could be that you keep picking the wrong thing over and over that’s abusive to you. It might be that you can’t seem to make money and you can’t figure it out. You’re broke all the time. Whatever it is, those are all different manifestations of the body’s check engine light, and so this was a check engine light for her.

I said, “Luckily, your subconscious was able to communicate to me that that’s what you needed.” I still have no idea exactly why that worked, but that is what she needed. In a nutshell, if you think about this new technology of The Body Code, this is what it’s about. It’s about giving the subconscious mind the internal system of intelligence, this internal computer that is so vastly powerful that we honestly have not even begun to scratch the surface of it yet.

It’s giving it a voice.

It is, finally, for the first time in recorded history. I’m sure that probably there’s nothing new under the sun and probably some system like this existed before. As far as we know, this is the first time. If you think about Western medicine, it wasn’t all that long ago that if you were sick, they would bleed you. The theory was you had either too much blood or your blood had gone bad. Sometimes they’d bleed people and take a lot of blood out. If they survived, then they knew that it worked.

Gradually, we moved into the industrial age. We began looking at every organ and gland as a separate machine, the machine of the body. We knew that if one of these machines malfunctions, you just take it out or maybe replace it with someone else’s machine that’s in better shape than yours. Also, along with that was this whole push for petrochemical pharmaceutical medicine. Where if the body has a symptom, that’s bad, and we need to suppress that symptom with some drug.

If the drug has side effects, that slowly destroy the liver in the kidneys, you might have to test a person’s blood every week or maybe every few days to make sure that they’re not going to die from what you’re giving them. Meanwhile, the symptom will stay suppressed. The suppression of the symptom became the priority in pharmaceutical medicine. There are times when suppressing those symptoms can be a good thing.

It is to keep people alive long enough to do the other part, which is what you were driven to do, which is to find the cause. You and other people have had this push to, “Let’s look at this systemically and find out what’s the cause of the symptom.”

I have tremendous respect for Western medicine, especially for acute problems. I remember my dad a number of years ago had a brain aneurysm. They were able to put a titanium coil and thread that up through the groin, through his heart, into this tiny vessel in his brain, and then released this little teeny titanium thread that had once been a little ball that once they released it, it wound itself back up into a ball again and plugged the leak. It’s miraculous.

There are all kinds of amazing things that Western medicine does, but most people most of the time don’t need some dramatic intervention like that. Most people most of the time don’t need a surgical approach. Most people most of the time don’t need some drug. When the body has some kind of a symptom, it needs to be the beginning of a dialogue or communication with the body, “What is going on?” That’s how I worked with people all those years. That’s what The Body Code is all about.

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Let me tell you another story. There was a woman that came in to see me who had fibromyalgia. I was able to help her get well from that. By the way, what I found was that no two patients were alike. Every single patient was different. Everybody had different causes. Even though I might see ten people in a row with the same disease that had been diagnosed, the underlying causes for each of them would be different. Some things they’d have in common, but a lot of things would be different.

She wanted her husband to come in and see me, and she finally persuaded him to come in. This guy comes in, and here’s his story. He was a truck driver. That’s what he did for a living. He was about 30 or so years old. He starts getting this uncomfortable feeling in his groin one day as he’s driving. His scrotum swells up, it gets big, and it gets incredibly painful. He starts seeing doctors for it. No one can figure it out. He goes on total disability for two years. He’s seeing one specialist after another. It’s this medical mystery. Nobody can figure it out.

Finally, two years into this, they open him up, they look around, they can’t see any causes for his problem, they saw him up again, and it all comes back. He just feels hopeless. Two more years go by. When he comes in to see me, he’s on total disability now for four years. He’s seeing doctors at Scripps La Jolla in San Diego, and he’s seeing specialists at UCLA Medical Center in LA. He’s making this trek up and down the coast. Every month, he’s seeing these specialists. He was looked at as a real medical mystery because nobody was able to help him. It was weird for them.

He’s in my waiting room or my exam room. I start asking some questions and talking to his subconscious mind. The body will respond with muscle strength for a yes answer and muscle weakness for a no answer. Within about 60 seconds, I find that he has some parasite that that’s the cause of his problem. I stopped and said, “I think that you have some kind of a parasite. At least that’s what your subconscious mind seems to be saying. Has anyone mentioned that that could be a possibility?” He said, “No.” In four years, nobody had mentioned that word at all to him. I said, “That’s what your problem is.”

We used to carry four different supplements for parasites, just herbs. I tested him to see which one he needed. His subconscious knew, so he left the office a while later and had a couple of bottles of supplements to take for his parasites. When he got home, he didn’t want to do it. He didn’t want to take it. “This is so ridiculous. This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m seeing all these specialists, and my condition is hopeless.” His wife made him take the supplements. Five days later, this guy comes back in.

Still to this day, this is one of the happiest, most glowing people I’ve ever seen. He was so happy because, within a matter of about three days, all that chronic swelling melted away. It all disappeared. You think about that. There are more stories like that that have happened probably than I can remember, but really see the beauty of it. Now, with The Body Code, people like you and me get to create their own stories like this.

That was the thing I was going to mention when you were talking about the morning sickness. You tongue-in-cheek said, “I guess the reason only one woman came is the others were too sick to make it to my office.” The wonderful part about both The Emotion Code and The Body Code is they don’t have to get to your office. They can get the app on their phone. They can get the book. You don’t have to be a medical doctor trained to start getting some good answers about what your subconscious knows that would help you.

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The Emotion Code

That’s the beauty of it. Let me tell you something. I had taught bits and pieces of this whole system that I’d put together that we now call The Body Code. It didn’t have a name then, but I had taught bits and pieces of it starting in seminars back in about 1998. When The Emotion Code book came out in 2007, I had this vague idea that, eventually, I would put all of this other information that I had learned into some package and sell it to trained doctors in the use of this because I thought, “This is going to be great for doctors. It will change their whole practice. I’ve had such great success with this.”

About a year after The Emotional Code book came out, one morning I woke up and my mind was full of instruction. The instruction was very clear. It didn’t come from my own mind, it came from above. The instruction was, “You need to take everything that you’ve learned about natural healing and put it into a self-study course that anyone can learn and make it available to everyone, everywhere.” I remember thinking, “Are you sure about this? This sounds like it could require some work.” I sat on this for about three months. I knew what I needed to do, but I sat on it for about three months and kept thinking about it like, “How am I going to do this? Where do I even begin?”

I finally started on it. It took about a year to create the first version of The Body Code, then we completely took it apart, put it back together again, and added a bunch of stuff that was in 2013. Now, there is this new version we call The Body Code System. It’s an app. Also, The Body Code is a book that looks like this. This is the manual for the body itself and how to find imbalances that are going on that are causing problems for you. This understanding’s time has come. The cat is out of the bag.

We can’t ever go back to where we were. Now we know that within us lies this incredibly powerful subconscious mind that knows what’s going on with every cell on the body down to the subatomic level, the subconscious mind that is connected to the database of genius that fills the universe, the morphic field, the light of Christ, the database of all that is, the Akashic records, whatever you want to call it. It goes by different names, but the subconscious mind of each one of us is tied into that field. The subconscious mind of animals is tied to that field. That’s how dogs know when their owner is coming home. They’ve proven that the dog will go to the window the moment the owner starts thinking about going home because they’re connected through that field. That’s the beauty of this.

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The Body Code: Within us lies this powerful subconscious mind.


What I want to say about it before we completely run out of time here is that it is so usable as an app. I understand that I’ve had some exposure to things like this prior to that, the neuro-emotional technique and your The Emotion Code book. I’ve practiced with these things, but I’m telling you as I’m trying to tell other people, the app makes it so I don’t even have to have all of that. I could pick up the app after a little bit of reading your book and understanding and finding what method I want to use for my own muscle testing, or have somebody else muscle test me. With that app in hand, it’s a decision tree that keeps keeping me on track. I have to be willing to ask, “Am I on track or off track?” If I’m off track, I go back and start again. It’s very useful.

The other thing I wanted to point out is that you give these examples of these wonderful quick solutions to problems, and those do happen. There are other stories that you have in the book where it takes a while and we have to peel off layers of things before there’s a deeper problem revealed. The other thing I thought was that there’s a powerful part in your book where you talk about, “Please do not use this to diagnose. Use it as it’s intended. Ask the question of the subconscious and follow the answers it gives you.” You give a wonderful example of the person who had the diagnosis of cancer. They came to you for work and you decided to ask the body, “Do we have cancer?” The body kept saying no, until finally, it said yes.

It isn’t something to use for diagnosis, but it is something to use to identify, then release tensions, blockages, and reconnect things that are all energetically focused for the most part. There are some that you talk about, like the supplement chromium. That, too, in another way of thinking about it is an energy that the body needed.

That’s exactly right.

Even our foods, vitamins, and minerals are just energy packets.

It’s all energy. When you think about what Nikola Tesla said, he said, “If you want to understand the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration.” He was ahead of his time because that is exactly what it’s about. That’s exactly what energy medicine is. People since Albert Einstein have talked about how the energy of the future is going to be energy medicine. The Emotion Code and The Body Code are the simplest, fastest, easiest, and most approachable methods of energy healing that exist in the world. Kids can use these methods because they are so simple.

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I’ll tell you something. My ego has not been involved in this. The ego always wants to make things more complicated. The ego wants to build itself up. I know that this is not about me. I’m just a little workaholic doctor that became a teacher of this. That’s all I’m here to do. It is to tell people what they can do. That’s what’s exciting about this. It is seeing other people learn this language of the subconscious and start to find out why they’re having problems and fixing those problems on their own. It’s a paradigm shift.

It’s so interesting because I’ve been all over the world teaching this work for many years. In different places in the world, people have come up to me at different events and they’ve told me how, “I had a near-death experience and I saw this change the world and how we take care of ourselves.” People have said the same thing with dreams or with visions. It’s crazy. It’s wild for me to be involved in this.

Sometimes I pinch myself and think, “How did I even get into this situation?” I do believe that this is my life’s purpose. When I look back on my life and all the things that have happened to me and the spiritual experiences that I’ve had that have taught me all these powerful fundamentals that I share in these two books, it’s a crazy thing. I’m grateful to have a job. I’m grateful to have something to do and to be engaged in something that is helping so many people all over the world. It’s very gratifying, fun, and unbelievable sometimes.

You’ve got the books, The Emotion Code and The Body Code. It’s available on Audible. That’s how I digested it. At the end of The Body Code, you mentioned that you can get trained. You’ve got a training program for becoming a practitioner with The Body Code.

We do. Understand that the vast majority of people will use The Body Code. They’ll use it on their friends, family members, kids, and on themselves. It’s for everybody to use. Some people want to learn it well and go on. What we’ve done is we’ve created a certification program. These are all done online. They’re available on our website, which is DiscoverHealing.com. It starts with The Emotion Code and The Emotion Code Certification Program. It’s less than $1,000. People can sign up. They have six months to complete the program. Most people do it in half the time. You watch videos online, you take quizzes, then you start working on people, and you record what you’re finding with them. You have to work on some animals, and so on.

Once you’ve graduated from that, then you can do The Body Code Certification Program as well. Most people will take about three months to do each one of these. They’re both the same. It’s not expensive. I’ve talked to people who have spent $10,000 to $15,000 in a whole year traveling back and forth across the country to get certified in a method of energy healing so that they can charge people and have their own businesses. This is just a fraction of that. Part of it is because it is done online. You don’t have to travel. These are our first two levels of certification. The Emotion Code is level one, and then we have The Body Code level one. We’re coming out with our third level of certification soon, which is going to be called The Belief Code.

That’s a very rapid, simple, easy way to find the negative beliefs that you have about yourself and the world. Those beliefs that are held in the subconscious mind that exist as discreet energies in there. They can be identified and they can be deleted. Sometimes you put new ones in and sometimes you don’t. It’s all going to be very rapid. It will work just like The Body Code. That’s a level of certification that will be coming out soon. We’re working on that and finalizing that now.

We’ll have a fourth level of certification that we’ll be introducing hopefully. That will be our Healing Mastery Level. We have a lot of people. Initially, we set up the certification programs so that we could vet people if they were going to be charging other people for this work. We reserve the right. Since it’s all copyrighted trademark material, we wanted to make sure that they knew what they were doing.

What we find now is that about 1/3 of the people that sent it for our certification programs don’t have any intention of practicing or making it a business. They just want to learn it well. That’s all available at DiscoverHealing.com. If you go to that same site, we have a map of the world and we have practitioners that are on that map. If you’re looking for someone to work with you, you don’t have to learn this yourself if you don’t want to. You can have someone else work with you and do it for you.

It works beautifully. I did it myself. I went and scoped out people from near this area, I’m in the Illinois area, up in Michigan over in Ohio. I finally found a woman in Ohio that had also some other medical background that I was looking for, and I’ve had a few sessions with her. That part, I’m so pleased that you did that. The practitioners that have been certified, you’ve got the information for how to contact them right there.

It’s right there on the map at DiscoverHealing.com. This person that worked with you is in another state, it sounds like.

We did it through Zoom.

You can work with somebody. It doesn’t matter. That can be on the other side of the planet. Welcome to the 21st century. This is energy medicine. Energy medicine does not look like any other kind of medicine. It works at any distance, at least as great as the diameter of the earth. One day I’d like to test it on somebody that’s off-world, but we haven’t had a chance to do that yet one of these days.

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The Body Code: Energy medicine does not like any other kind of medicine. It works at any distance.


I’m greatly appreciative of your time. I thank you for the work you’re doing with both of these books. I look forward to talking to you again when you get The Belief Code. With the kind of work I’ve done over the past years in this field, Bruce Lipton’s book, The Biology of Belief, Gregg Braden’s work, Diederik Wolsak, Dr. Michael Rice, and all these people that understand the power of where I focus my mind energy as a creative force. I’m sure that when you get into your belief code, it’s going to be similar. I’m looking forward to talking to you about that when it’s done.

Let’s do that. Thank you for your time. I appreciate it. It’s great to see you.

I appreciate it. Thank you so much for being here.

Thank you.

Dr. Bradley Nelson, doctor of chiropractic, retired, is a veteran holistic physician. He’s one of the world’s foremost experts on natural methods of achieving wellness. He has trained thousands of certified practitioners worldwide to help people overcome physical and emotional discomfort by releasing their emotional baggage. His bestselling book, The Emotion Code, provides step-by-step instructions for working with the body’s energy healing power.

My interview with Dr. Nelson about The Emotion Code book was published on the Journey’s Dream, On Your Mind show in October of 2021. Please refer back to that for a more detailed explanation of The Emotion Code. Dr. Bradley’s new book, The Body Code, greatly expands the range of issues that can be addressed with this powerful mind-body energy technique. For more information, visit DiscoverHealing.com.


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OYM Bradley Nelson | The Body CodeVeteran holistic physician Dr. Bradley Nelson (D.C., ret.) is one of the world’s foremost experts on natural methods of achieving wellness. He has trained thousands of certified practitioners worldwide to help people overcome physical and emotional discomfort by releasing their emotional baggage. His best-selling book “The Emotion Code” provides step-by-step instructions for working with the body’s energy healing power. A newly revised and expanded edition of “The Emotion Code” is now available (May 2019, St. Martin’s Press). For more information discoverhealing.com



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